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William Stephens of Pillgwenlly in the Borough of
Newport Blacksmith States - I have know John Gibby about
half a year - he was a Blacksmith working at Mr Evans'
at Pill - I keep a Shop at Pill and Edward Brickley
worked for me for nearly two years - The Friday before the
Riots at Newport I went to my Shop about 7 o'clock in the
evening and there found John Gibby and another man grinding
something at the grindstone in my Shop - I did not see
what he was grinding and as I have given persons leave
to grind things in my Shop I did not think any thing of
it - I went out leaving Brickley at work making hinges
for Ashfield the Butcher - when I came back Gibby and
the man were gone - a few days before Jenkin Morgan
whom I know as a Milkman at Pill came and asked me
to make him something the shape of a pike it was sharpe
at the point and thin at the edges to fit upon a stick
I filed it - I did not know nor did he tell me what
it was for - he paid me 1'/6d for it and went away - when
he came to me first he asked me to make something like
what I made Davies the Potter but sharper at the point
Davies is a Potter at Pill and had brought a pattern in
wood of something he wanted made to fit upon a Stick
which he said was to cut clay with. it was about one or
one and a half inch wide, about 10 inches long and made to
fit upon a Stick but that was not sharpe - Davies came a
second time and said he had broken the one I first made
for him and I made him a second - I do not think he
could have broken the first by fair play - Jenkin did not
say what he wanted his for - I never attended any meetings
I never attended any in my life - I did not approve of
it and never went near it - I have not seen Davies since
but have heard that he lost his arm in the Riots by being
shot thro' - Jenkin Morgan I have also heard is in prison
for joining the riots.
Wm Stephens



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