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William Stephens of Pillgwenlly in the Borough of
Newport Blacksmith States. I have known John Gibby
about half a year - He was a Blacksmith working at Mr.
' at Pill - I keep a Shop at Pill and Edward
worked for me for nearly two years - the Friday
before the Riots at Newport I went to my Shop about 7 o'clock
in the Evening and there found John Gibby and another
man grinding something at the Grindstone in my shop -
I did not see what he was grinding and as I have
often given persons to grind things in my Shop
I did not think any thing of it - I went out leaving
Brickley at work making Hinges for Ashfield the Butcher -
When I came back Gibby and the man were gone -a
few days before Jenkin Morgan whom I know as a
Milkman at Pill came and asked me to make him
something the shape of a pike it was sharp at the
point and thin at the edges and to fit upon a Stick - I
filed it. I did not know nor did he tell me what it
was for - He paid me 1'/6d for it - and went away - When
he came to me first he asked me to make something
like what I made Davies the Potter but sharper at the
point - Davies is a Potter at Pill and had brought a
Pattern in Wood of something he wanted made to fit
upon a Stick which he said was to cut clay with - it
was about one or one and a half inch wide about 10 inches
long and made to fit upon a Stick but that was not
sharp - Davies came a second time and said he had
broken the one I had made for him and I made him a
second - I do not think he could have broken the first
by fair play - Jenkin did not say what he wanted his
for. I never attended any meetings, I never attended any
in my life - I did not approve of it and never went near it
I have not seen Davies since but have heard that he lost his
arm in the Riots by being shot thro' - Jenkin Morgan I have
also heard is in Prison for joining the Riots -
Wm Stephens



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