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Benjamin Gould examined by Sir F. Pollock
I am a Painter and Glazier residing at Newport I was asked to
go on Monday 4th November to the Westgate as a constable - I was then
constable of the Borough - I went in the morning about twenty minutes before
the firing commenced - I was provided with a constable's staff - I went to
the front door without being placed there - others were there with me.
I saw some persons come round from Stow Hill with arms. Two of
them came forward up to the steps leading to the Westgate. Mr Hopkins
the Superintendent of the police was there at the time - He asked them what
they wanted - They said "We want our prisoners" There was a sort of groan
made by some of the special constables behind me. The man who said
"We want our prisoners" had a stick in his hand, about six fee[t] long, with
a piece of iron at the end of it. - A hand was reached out by one of the -
special constables inside the Westgate to take this stick. - Then there was a
general rush. - The special constables went away - I went in at the back.
I then heard firing. - The firing commenced about a second after I got in at
the back way. - I was constable when Vincent was apprehended - There
was a collection of persons in the streets at that time - There was a disturbance
between the Constables and the people. - Mr Frost that day spoke to the people
He advised them peaceably to go home
Cross examined by Mr Serjeant Ludlow
It might be 12 months before the 4th of November that I heard Frost
give such advice - It was about half past 8 in the morning of the 4th -
I went to the Westgate - I was applied to by Mr Camden to act as a -
constable (he is a Master Painter) as the magistrates were there. I did not
know that the magistrates were at the Westgate until half past 8 - at 7
o'Clock I heard there was a body of men coming down from the hills - Some
of the shops were shut, and I inquired - I might have been at the -
Westgate five minutes before the mob came down - I went from my
employer's house - I knew the soldiers were usually stationed at the
poor house
. - I did not see any soldiers there, nor knew there were any
there until I heard the firing. - I went to the front of the Westgate - I did
not put myself under the orders of the magistrates but acted according to

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