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John Cullimore being sw states.
I live at Tredegar and am a Grocer. I know the Prisoner
Benjamin Richards perfectly well. On that Sunday morning about
8 o'clock as I was returning from Sirhowy where
I had been for a walk
I met a group of people from 15 to 20 opposite the old rolling mill,
some were armed with pikes and I saw one with a gun
. I saw the
Prisoner there with those men, he is a shoe maker I don't know for
certain where he lives. Knowing him to be a Constable I stopped &
spoke to him. I asked him if he knew the Chartists were coming. He
said he did. I said the Soldiers are sent for and are expected here every
minute. He said we shall be glad to see them, we would soldier them.
He had a stick similar to those the other men had, but whether it had
a pike or not I cannot say
. The Stick was about 7 feet long, not
very thick, about the size of the Candlestick, it was bigger than a
Besom stick. Daniel Gwynne/e/ and David Thomas Davies were
with me at that time, they ran away supposing I was taken. I left
Benjamin Richards and ran after my companions. I did not know
any of the men that were with Benjamin Richards, I only noticed him,
I am certain it was Benjamin Richards, I only the Prisoner at the Bar
I saw that night, it was a wet and dark night.
X I saw the Prisoner with a stick in his hand, he said he would be very
glad to see the Soldiers , they would be very glad soldier them.

Walter William Homan states. I am Superintendent of
Police at Tredegar
. I know the Prisoner Benjamin Richards. I
caused him to be apprehended. Always considering the Prisoner to
be a Constable I asked him if he knew the charge on which he was
apprehended. He said no he had done nothing and no one could charge
him with having done any thing, he never carried arms, a man came
and called him from his house and he was bound to go And that he

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