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and the way to get it was for every poor man to give their
names and stick true together - that it should be got in
spite of all Hell - Witness saw prisoner next on the Sunday
afternoon about 3 o'Clock at his own house - Many persons
were there - prisoner then said there was a large Meeting to be
held on the Mountain that
it would be best for every one to
have somewhat with him to defend himself for fear that
some people might come to the Meeting and interrupt them

that the meeting was to be on the Mountain for all to be ready to
go up to London in peace
that there was no shedding of
blood nor nothing of the sort to be in the case
- that the
Gentlemen were to give to the poor to go to London to shew
themselves there and support their wives and families till
their return every one to his own home peaceably - that
every one should be on the Mountain first at dark about
Chapel time 6 p.m. - Witness went towards Chapel - saw
persons going in and out of prisoners house - Saw many
with pikes
- some went into the house without & came out with
pikes - There is a long room at the prisoners house which would
hold 2 or 300- Witness was compelled by the pikemen to go
to the Mountain - It was 6 p.m. that witness got there
saw a man there whom he thinks was the prisoner and they
said was Zeph Williams - Heard him say there was one of the
Engines and Trams and planks laid on them to take the people
down to Newport - The men on the Mountain were armed with
pikes and Guns
- Went down the Mountain to Pen-y-cae thence
to the Welsh Poole in one throng except scattered parties - saw
there the man they called Zeph Williams - Witns went as far as
Stow Hill & then ran off - Witness does not speak positively to
the prisoner on the night of 3rd Novr. ___________ Call

To prove that on the 1st Saturday in Novr witness was at Zeph
Williams
' house
on the pay night- Witns asked him what they
were to do for victuals when they took the men away - Williams
answered not to mind that he would mind for victuals for
the women and children- that he would mind shop for her
till the men came back- Sometime before this Witness saw Williams

[in l. margin]
Armed to prevent
Interruption
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go in peace
Williams [faint]
14

[in right margin]
said
William
Howell

183.


Rachel
Howell
wife of last
witness
187


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