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hand I am sure I saw him put a bullet into the Gun he
had in his hand - I must be a stupid sort of fellow not
to know the differance between Ganger and Gardener the Prisoner
was behind us when they asked for Aust the Ganger and
must have heard it.
__________________John Dallimore

John Matthews Sworn - I am a Gardener in the Service
of Mr. Prothero. I know James Aust the Prisoner - I have
known him since I came to Mr Prothero's employ which is
about 8 months ago I have in the last Summer when there
some disturbance here in Newport had a Conversation with
the Prisoner respecting the Chartists he was on his way
to Newport him and his Man - we were talking about the
Chartists I and he were talking about revolution, I said
that if we had a revolution in this Country the Russians
would come in and we should [] under the Russian Government
his answer to that was that he would rather be under the
Russian Government than under the present Government as it
were now I recollect that he has told me that he really believed
that he should lose his life in the Cause of the Chartists
I cant recollect the time he said so - early in the morning
of Monday last about 8 o'Clock I was about the house and
went to open the Conservatory I saw Mr. Aust and Mr.
Davies
the fitter up standing on the Road near Mr Prothero's
Lodge
. I had scarcely any conversation then I went then
to open the Conservatory and then I went to my breakfast
I then heard a terrible row in the Stable yard where I
live. I knew the Coachman was there and I got up from my
breakfast to ask what was the matter - stable yard adjoins
the Turnpike road - when I went out the Yard was nearly
full of people - they were about having my Masters Coachman
to go away, but I am not sure whether they had hold of
him or not - he offered them resistance and then they
got hold of me and told me that I must go along -
I resisted a little, but I saw it was no good - the party

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