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he was going to Merthyr as his -
Brother was married but I never
heard his Brother was married -
John Owen told me the Pikes which
he called Stay Nails were for John
Hopkins at the Victoria Works Carpenter -
I did use to ask him what they were
for and he used to say they were for
fastening Shelves up to the Walls at
the Company's Shop - I never saw
Stay Nails like them - I never saw
any of them in the Shop after John
Owen went away when the Chartists
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