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for them - D. Jones then asked Prisr who ^ how he could have
the conscience to make such things as these which might
perhaps kill his own neighbour & perhaps ^his family as well -
Then he said hef was forced to do it - D. Jones then asked
him what was the reason he went on like that & afterwds
ran away from them - He answered - He should get on
very well if they gained the Victory in Brecon as he should
take & run his pike into a sheep or fowl to get some blood
on it to shew as he had been with them & had run his pike
into somebody. Prisoner also said he heard 3
men say at the Ra Lodge (by which witnesses suppose
he meant the Rasau Lodge )that they were enough
for Summers Harford Thomas Rosser Cashier of
Ebbw Vale & Powell the Policeman of Nantyglo -
Pris r said he should very not be sorry to hear that those 3
Chartists who threatened Mr Harford & Rosser & the
policeman were killed - We then went from the
house & left him there - & went to another Public house
& Staid there all night - I went still further into
Breconshire the next morning - & about middle day
took the Brecon Coach to Abergavenny where we staid
until Wednesday morning - when we went back home .
____________________[signed] David Jones
____________________________John Thomas

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