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upon him - I took him before Mr. Homfray the
Magistrate when the prisoner was before the Magistrate
he said that the Balls and the mould produced by
the last witness Phillips had been taken from
him and that he had made the Bullets for the
Chartists to prevent him being taken away by them
and in order that he might remain at home with
his wife who was very ill and had not been confined

more than a week - I don`t know how long his wife
had been ill. I returned with the prisoner to his
house about 3 o`clock in the morning. I then searched
his house - I found a Bullet Mould numbered 58 with
a Bullet in it - 14 pistol Bullets and a piece
of lead that appeared to have been recently made
he said the lead was for making the pendulums
of a Clock - He made the Bullets for the Chartists
to prevent his being taken away
- that his wife was
very ill and that he would have been taken away
had he not consented to make them - he said he
had been up to the Chartist Lodge on the Saturday
night where he had been detained very late - He
stated that he had been a Subscriber but had
not attended for a considerable time. on the
Thursday or Friday I cannot tell which he said
a person came to his Shop and asked him how
they got on he did not at first understand his
meaning but above alluding to the Lodge in Dukes
- This person who he states to me he did not
know told him there was to be a meeting at the
Chartist Lodge
on the Saturday night and that he
would be expected there - that after he had finished
his work on the Saturday he went up and remained
with them very late or rather early - I asked what
their intentions were, I held out no promise to him

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